Torah Times Third Delivery
The “live back link” to the “article” by Daniel Gregg and its “site” of origin referred to here, is, torahtimes dot org
I shall not therefore here, give the ‘article’ in full, but for the sake of brevity shall only quote relevant extracts.
Daniel Gregg:
“(Leviticus) 7:15 This text shows that for the purposes of sacrificial offering, the day was reckoned from daybreak to daybreak. The commandment is that it shall be eaten on the day of his offering; he shall not leave any of it until morning. The parallel commandment he shall not leave any of it until morning (עַד־בּוֹקֶר) marks the end of the day at daybreak. If the day had ended at sunset, then the commandment would say, "he shall not leave any of it until sunset". Daybreak to daybreak is the default method of counting a day in the Scripture. See Genesis 1:5 note. Any other explanation requires further ad hoc (unparsimonious) assumptions.
Since the text says in the day, בְיוֹם, it is clear that the limit up to morning is reckoned as the same day, and not two days broken by sunset. The breaking point between day's is daybreak. Even the Rabbis are compelled to recognize that the calendar day is reckoned to end at morning here because in the Talmud they legislate that the "peace offering" cannot be eaten after midnight. They put this fence up before the morning limit so as to prevent Israel from tempting the morning limit of the calendar day by coming too close to it.
Rashi's commentary says, "וּבְשַׂר זֶבַח תּוֹדַה שְׁלָמָיו — And the flesh of the sacrifice of His thanksgiving peace-offering. יֵשׁ כַּאן רִבּוּיִין הַרְבֵּה — There are many inclusions here, ... to include the sin-offering, ... and the guilt offering, ...and the ram of the nazir, ... and the festival-offering of the fourteenth of Nisan, ... that they should be eaten לְיוֹם וָלָיְלָה — for a day and a night, the day of the sacrifice and the night which follows" (pg. 76-77, The Sapirstein Edition, Rashi, Vayikra/Leviticus). And all of this is reckoned as in the day of his offering.
We can apply this Messiah's offering, and the chronology of his death and resurrection. The day for a sacrifice is reckoned from daybreak to daybreak, (a day and then a night), for the passover offering, for the sin offering, for the peace offering, for the festival offering, etc. Yeshua fulfilled all these types. The day of His offering is counted from daybreak Wednesday to daybreak Thursday. The second day is daybreak Thursday to daybreak Friday, and "the third day" is daybreak on the sixth day to daybreak on the Sabbath. Yeshua was raised from the dead at "deep dawn" on the first Sabbath after the Passover (see John 20:1).”
GE:
Dear Daniel Gregg, do you realise how many “ad hoc (unparsimonious) assumptions” swarm YOUR, “Daybreak to daybreak .... default method of counting a day in the Scripture .... explanation”? In fact, it consists of nothing THAN, “ad hoc (unparsimonious) assumptions”.
You fall into the house breaking down ‘fences’ barriers and doors regardless, with your WILD, speculative, ‘assumedly’ based on Lv7:16 prescription --- a prescription for an occasional “peace offering” --- as “default method of counting a day in the Scripture”. All through, no exceptions. You invent your own antecedently the only --- the “ad hoc” “method” and “commandment” --- for ‘ad hoc’ “sacrificial offering” like even .... the passover’s! No, say you, This ‘peace offering’s’, sets the rule; will be “the default method of counting a day in the Scripture”; “compelled .... even the Rabbis to recognize that the calendar day is reckoned to end at morning”. So soon in your argumentation have you progresses that not only is “the day reckoned from daybreak to daybreak .... for the purposes of sacrificial offering”; but “that the calendar day is reckoned to end at morning”! But .... your ‘method’, has no ‘assumptions’ it is based on .....! meanwhile yours is nothing but assumption; nothing than magniloquent mole’s heap pretending Moses’ Mount.
‘This text’, “Leviticus 7:15”, does not, “show.... that for the purposes of sacrificial offering, the day was reckoned from daybreak to daybreak”; it shows that for the purposes of sacrificial offering GENERALLY, the day was reckoned from daybreak TO SUNSET. In fact, verse 16 says if another kind of sacrifice-offering “on the next day also the remainder of the sacrifice shall be eaten”. The Israelites NEVER had to make sacrifice during dark of night. The eating of the sacrifice could be on the following day; but for sacrificing— “for the purposes of sacrificial offering, the day was reckoned”, not, “from daybreak to daybreak”, but, “from daybreak to....” nightfall or sunset.
This ‘rule’ or “default method” for SACRIFICE, applies without exception and throughout “in the Scripture”. I could not find an exception; not one case where a sacrifice was not killed while its life-blood was ‘offered’ on the altar between sunset and sunrise. I invite you to show me an instance I have overlooked. Even with the first passover the Israelites had to stay in their homes after nightfall from sunset until midnight when they had to leave “without delay”; so they had to apply the blood before sunset to the doorposts before they entered their houses.
But the purpose for pointing this out, is to show that as a generalisation it is not true “Leviticus 7:15 shows that for the purposes of sacrificial offering, the day was reckoned from daybreak to daybreak”, or, that “the commandment it shall be eaten on the day of his offering” and that “he shall not leave any of it until morning”, “marks the end of the day at daybreak”. Yours is a misrepresentation of the Scriptures, Daniel Gregg!
The passover serves as best illustration how false your reasoning is. In Exodus where the passover is being recorded as happening, the lamb had to be killed “in the afternoon” and in the night before midnight had to be eaten and “that which remained” immediately after midnight when the Israelites left Egypt, had to be carried with and out into the wilderness and be burned there the next daylight apparently only the afternoon later in the day at Succot.
In all subsequent Scriptures mentioning the passover, the sacrifice is being dated on the fourteenth day of the calendar month in the afternoon; and the eating of its flesh “in the evening” after sunset on the fifteenth day of the calendar month and the disposal of “that which remained” the next daylight of the fifteenth day. WITHOUT EXCEPTION except for the exceptional cases where absentees were allowed to observe passover in the second month --- but, on the same fourteenth and fifteenth days of the month.
The passover was never killed AND eaten, BOTH between sunrise and sunset; NEVER— not even in Exodus where both killing and eating are recorded on the same date and day, the fourteenth day of the First Month, but the sacrifice “in the afternoon at the going down of the sun” and the eating of its flesh “That Night to be solemnly observed .... as a memorial”. Because in Exodus we find the ORIGIN of the passover when the old dispensation under bondage, in “three days and three nights” of “three days solid darkness”, transpired into the New Dispensation of grace, redemption and LIGHT.
So, again, it is untrue because not the full truth, “The parallel commandment he shall not leave any of it until morning (עַד־בּוֹקֶר) marks the end of the day at daybreak”. “He shall not leave any of it [OVERNIGHT] until morning (boqer – end of NIGHT)”, marks the end of the day / DAYLIGHT, at sunset the beginning of NIGHT. “The end of the day” is not “at daybreak”; “the end of the day” is ‘at sunset’; and ‘boqer’ – ‘morning’ – is the end of NIGHT.
So why did Daniel Gregg not mention verse 16? Because it says “the remainder MUST be eaten the next morning” --- ‘boqer’ for ‘day’ simply. “The remainder must be eaten the next DAY” --- the ‘day’ that already had had started the sunset before; the daylight of which day began with sunrise!
Morning (עַד־בּוֹקֶר / ‘boqer’) therefore, doesn’t “mark the end of the day at daybreak”; it marks the beginning of daylight at daybreak; the beginning of the daylight of the day AFTER the day on which the sacrifice was slain. ‘Boqer’ – ‘morning’, marks the beginning of the daylight of the day on which the flesh of the sacrifice had to be EATEN!
Gregg’s assumptions and inferences are irrelevant and inappropriate.
I think Daniel Gregg “even” misunderstands “the Rabbis.... in the Talmud” --- “Even the Rabbis are compelled to recognize that the calendar day is reckoned to end at morning here because in the Talmud they legislate that the "peace offering" cannot be eaten after midnight. They put this fence up before the morning limit so as to prevent Israel from tempting the morning limit of the calendar day by coming too close to it.” It is not to say that if “the Rabbis .... put this fence up before the morning” that “legislate(s) that the "peace offering" cannot be eaten after midnight”, they ‘legislated’, “that the calendar day is reckoned to end at morning”. I guess it’s a far cry from it! Why do I so, guess? Because if you look at the passover, there is much the same sort of ‘legislation’, that the Israelites had to eat the flesh of the passover sacrifice before midnight because midnight they had to move out “without delay”; they had to be loosened from the tree of bondage they were strapped to, ‘before sunrise’; and “that same day still by any means” they had to get into the wilderness of forgetfulness and utter forlornness --- like the forlornness of the grave and being hidden away from the wicked city of their past. Because, “They departed from Rameses on the fifteenth day in the First Month; on the morning – on the DAY – after the passover they went out with a High Hand.” “On the fifteenth day .... after the passover” which they slaughtered “on the fourteenth day in the First Month at even in the afternoon” Ex12:4,6 et al and ATE, “on the fifteenth day in the First Month” Lv23:6 Nb28:17; 33:3.
See what abomination Jeroboam made of the Lord’s passover; he made sacrifice not only in the illegitimate month, but also on the illegitimate – fifteenth – day of the month and illegitimately both sacrificed AND ate on the SAME day! 1K12:32,33.
Daniel Gregg:
“Rashi's commentary says, "וּבְשַׂר זֶבַח תּוֹדַה שְׁלָמָיו — And the flesh of the sacrifice of His thanksgiving peace-offering. יֵשׁ כַּאן רִבּוּיִין הַרְבֵּה — There are many inclusions here, ... to include the sin-offering, ... and the guilt offering, ...and the ram of the nazir, ... and the festival-offering of the fourteenth of Nisan, ... that they should be eaten לְיוֹם וָלָיְלָה — for a day and a night, the day of the sacrifice and the night which follows" (pg. 76-77, The Sapirstein Edition, Rashi, Vayikra/Leviticus). And all of this is reckoned as in the day of his offering.”
GE:
Another showpiece of what the Lord Jesus referred to in Mk7:7 and Mt15:9. Since when are the Rabbis the most exemplary of Christians and Christian doctrine? By what virtue are they the best of exegetes of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Was ‘Rashi’ – what or whoever he or it was or is – a believer in Christ or a denier of Christ? Why should the simple, unlearned, Christian know about “Rashi's commentary” or for that matter, about “וּבְשַׂר זֶבַח תּוֹדַה שְׁלָמָיו”, “לְיוֹם וָלָיְלָה”? For Christ’s sake, WHY?
AND STILL, the question remains, WHAT, “are”, the “many inclusions here”? Are they “the sin-offering ... and the guilt offering ...and the ram ... and the festival-offering of the fourteenth of Nisan”, and, “that they should be eaten”? “Eaten” the same day as their ‘offering’?— in the case of the passover, “eaten.... the fourteenth of Nisan”? Are they ‘offering sacrificed’ and ‘offering eaten’ “....reckoned as in the day of his offering”? “Eaten.... for a day and a night” and, “eaten.... the day of the sacrifice and the night which follows”?
Or are they the ‘offerings’ or ‘sacrifices’ in their day; and the eating of them in its own day? HOW shall I know? How, the next person? Is it the Jewish Rabbis and Jewish commentaries that cannot be believed, or is it Daniel Gregg’s and his use of the Jews and their commentaries that cannot be believed? Is it those who claim their being NOT Christians who must be distrusted; or is it exactly those who CLAIM they are Christians who should not be trusted --- should not be trusted exactly for their claim they are Christians?
The Rabbis and the Jews, ‘have nothing to lose’; so why must they be distrusted? The ‘Christians’ have MUCH to loose; so who’s gonna believe them? “By their fruits ye shall know them”. If lying is the fruit of their most innocently looking endeavours, one should know better than trust them. ‘TRUST IS DECEIT’S ONLY TRUST’ C.J. Langenhooven.
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